Our Supplier Made Bad Products and Won’t Put Them Right | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 27)

In this next post from our Q&A series on disputes with Chinese suppliers, we explore another tricky situation. This time, the issue revolves around a supplier manufacturing a specialty product with design improvements, but failing to deliver a key promised feature which damaged the customer’s business.* Let’s examine it and see what lessons can be learned…

*We omit any specific information that might be used to identify the customer or the product.

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Our Supplier Blackmailed Us! | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 26)

We found this interesting story posted on LinkedIn recently, in which product founder Daniel Rees shared his unfortunate experience with a Chinese supplier who was producing his company’s products, helmets.

The supplier, knowing that they relied on him for production, took the opportunity to pressure them to pay him more over a longer period or risk him pulling the plug on their project, leaving them in real trouble.

It serves as a cautionary tale, so we reproduce it here with thanks and provide our comments.

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A Sourcing Agent Copied Your Product! | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 25)

Working with a sourcing agent in China can be great for overseas importers as you get to tap into their knowledge of local markets and their established relationships with (hopefully) suitable suppliers, as well as saving the time and effort which can be better spent on building your business of trying to deal with suppliers with an unfamiliar language and culture.

However, working with a sourcing agent isn’t without its risks, and this case demonstrates that an agent who appears trustworthy can suddenly go rogue with very damaging consequences for your business…

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A Supplier Won’t Release Tooling AGAIN | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 24)

A customer came to us because they have had a BIG disagreement with a Chinese supplier and want to remove their tooling to go to a new manufacturer…what could go wrong?

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My Manufacturer Is Forcing Me To Accept Poor Quality! | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 11)

My Manufacturer Is Forcing Me To Accept Poor Quality! | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 11)Sometimes your Chinese supplier will use various dirty tricks to push you into accepting products that don’t reach your quality standard. Why could this happen and what can you do about it? Find out here with a helpful example and some tips…

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We’re Buying Medical Devices From China And Are Worried Our Supplier Isn’t Legit | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 8)

We're Buying Medical Devices From China And Are Worried Our Supplier Isn't Legit | Disputes With Chinese Suppliers Q&A (Volume 8)Unfortunately, the Covid-19 pandemic is still with us here in summer 2021 and so there’s still a great interest in purchasing medical devices such as medical-grade nitrile gloves, gowns, and surgical masks from China for use in hospitals and other healthcare settings. I’ve already written a number of posts about medical devices and PPE and the risks you face, such as this one, but if you really need to source and purchase medical supplies I’ll share some steps you can take to stay safe here.

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Improving Worsening Product & Packaging Quality – Disputes With Chinese Suppliers: Q&A (Volume 5)

Disputes with Chinese suppliers Volume 5Q: We use a manufacturer in China for our products and packaging and have had a good relationship for years, but recently product and packaging quality has gone downhill. What can we do?

We’re supplied by a Hong Kong company that has their factory across the border in Shenzhen.

Overall we’ve had a good relationship for the past couple of years, but the last order was terrible as product quality had really suffered and it’s almost like they didn’t perform QC at all.

To make matters worse, they’re also using thin and flimsy cardboard for the product’s outer packages and we’re getting a lot of damage to the products by the time we receive them, too. This is unacceptable as we’ve requested them to stop doing this and use more suitable packaging on a number of occasions.

In addition, even our logistics company is making mistakes when shipping the products, too.

I know the owner and have spoken directly with him and have placed a new order in the hope that they now start getting it right.

What should we be doing to improve the situation?

Answer:

Yes, poor product quality and bad packaging that ruins the products is a major source of frustration for many importers!

Here are a couple of questions:

  • Could it be that they are subcontracting the production of your products to a different factory (perhaps a friend of theirs) without your knowledge? This would explain why errors that should be easy to fix are being made despite you having a good relationship with the supplier.
  • Are the owner and the top management in Hong Kong right now?
    Due to COVID travel restrictions, it’s very difficult to go between Hong Kong and China these days, and we’ve seen many factories run into issues when their top management became unable to travel there to keep an eye on things.

Based on your situation here are some suggestions about how to put the situation right

Project Management

Sending someone in to manage your project on the ground in Shenzhen will help find, analyze, and correct the issues.

How Sofeast can help 👉 Supplier Management:
We can have one of our supply chain management technicians communicate directly with the people at the factory, repeat your requirements, request photos in order to ensure things are well addressed, etc. We invoice 38 USD per hour for that (consumed in small increments, but invoiced in blocks of a minimum of 5 hours).

Product Inspections

To take control of the product and packaging quality problems it’s wise to send in a quality inspector when production is well underway or products are being packed before shipping. The inspector will alert you as to whether it is not good before it’s too late to make changes, and you can request improvements to the product quality or new outer cartons (which should be both strong and dry).

How Sofeast can help 👉 Product Inspections:
In Shenzhen, the price is 299 USD for 1 man-day of work for product inspections.

Off-Site QC and Fulfilment

Another approach to solve all of the issues would be to send your products to a separate 3rd party facility, where the QC, packing, and fulfilment are managed by specialists without the involvement of your suppliers. Your supplier often wants to ship ASAP to get payment, whereas a third party is being paid to get the packing and fulfilment right and doesn’t have external pressures to skip the time it takes to be extra careful.

How Sofeast can help 👉 100% inspection, repacking, and shipping:
Your supplier delivers products (usually without final packing) to our facility, we check these products and sort out the ‘bad ones’, we pack them, and we ship them to you.
We can also kit or assemble several components together. We provide a quote based on your specific situation.
Other services from our China 3PL may also be suitable here, for instance, if you do not need to perform 100% inspections, but do want co-packing of your products at our 3rd party facility.


 

Are you designing, or developing a new product that will be manufactured in China?

Sofeast has created An Importer’s Guide to New Product Manufacturing in China for entrepreneurs, hardware startups, and SMEs which gives you advance warning about the 3 most common pitfalls that can catch you out, and the best practices that the ‘large companies’ follow that YOU can adopt for a successful project.

It includes:

  • The 3 deadly mistakes that will hurt your ability to manufacture a new product in China effectively
  • Assessing if you’re China-ready
  • How to define an informed strategy and a realistic plan
  • How to structure your supply chain on a solid foundation
  • How to set the right expectations from the start
  • How to get the design and engineering right

Just hit the button below to get your copy:

An Importers Guide to New Product Manufacturing in China Guide

Keeping Sensitive Information Confidential – Disputes With Chinese Suppliers: Q&A (Volume 4)

Disputes with Chinese suppliers Volume 4

Q: I’m worried that my sensitive product information won’t be kept confidential when it is sent to component suppliers. How can it be kept secure?

Answer:

There are legal and non-legal approaches here.

Non-Legal: Reducing the amount of information being shared 

1. The most important action is to avoid giving too much information to one given supplier. If they see what the end product is, and if they think there is plenty of margin to grab, they might add 50% (or more!) to their price. Or they might give a low price, in the hope of being selected and with the purpose of competing with you later, and that’s probably even worse. 

2. The second most important action you can take is avoiding sending sensitive information to multiple suppliers or simplifying the tender to remove the most confidential parts.
Note: When working with Sofeast on sourcing, in some cases we know a supplier that is already qualified and is probably a good fit. In many other cases, we involve other suppliers but do some screening first. It is usually possible to ask them to provide information based on a similar component, or at least a part that requires similar processing when doing that screening.

If we do a good job of restricting both the information sent and the number of suppliers we need to send it to, the risk is already lower. As Steve Dickinson wrote last week in China Law Blog, there are many ways information can leak, and you want to minimize that.

 

Legal: Getting the supplier to sign an NDA or NNN agreement

The next step is figuring out whether each component supplier needs to sign a non-disclosure, non-use, and non-circumvention (NNN) agreement.

Read more about manufacturing contracts here 👉 How To Create A Valid Manufacturing Contract In China To Protect Your IP

We usually discuss this with our client, to make sure we are aligned. There are several cases:

  • We already have an NNN agreement with that supplier: we are all set.
  • We only communicate a very small part of the project information, and in itself that poses no IP dissemination risk: no need for an NNN agreement.
  • We communicate too much information to be in the situation above: it usually calls for a NNN agreement.

(Note: each project is unique in its own ways, so there are many special cases. For example, if we need to use a piece of technology developed by an OEM supplier, the approach is necessarily different, since they might have more confidential information to protect than our client.)

If you want to learn even more about legal options and China manufacturing contracts, listen to this episode of our podcast:

Other tips

  • In our experience, it’s always better to try to keep your product or brand information from suppliers unless they’re conducting the final packing. We discuss this in more detail here: IP Protection For Manufacturers. Keep Component Suppliers In The Dark
  • There is a relationship between a supplier’s interest in IP infringement and your order volumes. Low volumes (let’s say USD 10k per order or less) won’t be as attractive.

 

Are you designing, or developing a new product that will be manufactured in China?

Sofeast has created An Importer’s Guide to New Product Manufacturing in China for entrepreneurs, hardware startups, and SMEs which gives you advance warning about the 3 most common pitfalls that can catch you out, and the best practices that the ‘large companies’ follow that YOU can adopt for a successful project.

It includes:

  • The 3 deadly mistakes that will hurt your ability to manufacture a new product in China effectively
  • Assessing if you’re China-ready
  • How to define an informed strategy and a realistic plan
  • How to structure your supply chain on a solid foundation
  • How to set the right expectations from the start
  • How to get the design and engineering right

Just hit the button below to get your copy:

An Importers Guide to New Product Manufacturing in China Guide

Disputes With Chinese Suppliers: Q&A (Volume 3)

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_single_image image=”9865″ img_size=”full” onclick=”custom_link” link=”https://www.sofeast.com/knowledgebase/disputes-with-chinese-suppliers-qa-volume-3/”][vc_column_text]In this volume, we discuss an unfortunate situation – what happens when your Chinese supplier disappears with tooling or inventory belonging to you! 😱

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Disputes With Chinese Suppliers: Q&A (Volume 2)

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]Disputes with Chinese suppliers Volume 2

In this volume we will address the concerns of importers who are using a Chinese OEM to add a logo to existing products that will then be sold abroad.

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